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Old 11-07-2017, 01:38 PM
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5x07: "THE KILGANNON CORPORATION" Episode Discussion Thread (11/08/2017 @ 8PM)

5x07 | The Kilgannon Corporation
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Red (James Spader) and the Task Force place Dembe (Hisham Tawfiq) undercover to infiltrate an international human smuggling organization, but when communication is lost, they must intervene. Meanwhile, Tom's (Ryan Eggold) investigation into the suitcase lands him in grave danger.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:56 AM
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Thanks for starting this Kris! Can't wait to see it tomorrow. I can start work later tomorrow so I am going to watch it before I go to work.
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Old 11-08-2017, 01:00 PM
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Then I hope you'll be around to share your opinion tomorrow as well
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:12 PM
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Dembe was AMAZING!! Red was out of his mind with worry and in the end, Red got to save Dembe!! It was a great episode!
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:37 AM
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OMFG, guys... This episode was amazing!!!!!

First of all Dembe and Red... God, give me a break! That's the second episode of the show that brought me to tears! Stunning, breathtaking... I don't know how else I shall describe it.

Liz and Tom getting married again and spending their 'honeymoon'. Yeah, no words...

But man, I so enjoyed Tom being taken hostage Best thing that happened in a long time. And God, please... LET HIM DIE!
I can't believe that he is really willing to give Red up, to betray him and Liz, to save his skin. And God, don't you even dare to make it all about your so called family. I really hope that now, that he's decided to turn against Red, he'll finally die by Red's hands.

Cooper, I loved him and his decisions this time. I really love that we have the old Cooper back somehow. Even Ressler going along, having doubts when seeing it for himself. This made my heart melt

Dembe and the little girl, so fantastic as well This episode was full of fantastic moments, it's unbelievable. I'm still a bit overwhelmed.
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:52 AM
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I ship Rembe. I don't need Liz or Tom anymore. They can both go. Rembe forever.

Kris I totally agree. This episode was amazing and is literally going to be one of my all time favorites.

Hisham had the chance to shine! I am so excited for him. I loved his interaction with the child. And taking charge on the truck.

Red was terrified for Dembe. I love it and them. It was amazing to me that he has always been able to let Liz do her job. But with Dembe, Red could barely let him go undercover. You know I've said before that Red always tends to go in a room before Dembe even though Dembe is the bodyguard. Now we really see it.

Their love for each other. Dembe worried for Red being alone. And Red talking about Rrmbe to Liz! I loved everything he said. I know Red talked about how angry he used to be. And he probably was. I'd still love to know why! And yes I'm thinking because the Christmas Eve story. But I still think Red has always been fundamentally good.

This may sound dumb but I loved Red driving them to the hospital and driving st the end too.

Yes Cooper and Ressler at the end. That was perfect. Them understanding the situation and trusting Red. I also was glad that Liz trusted him in the beginning.

I also thought that she should see Red had his hands full and had nothing to do with Tom. She can't blame him for this. So Red hired the guy following the girl! Didn't see that coming. Tom was totally wrong about Pete.

And yeah Tom is going to betray Red. So who is this villain? You're going to laugh but I looked st him and thought I hope you're not the real Red because he wasn't very attractive. Lol. He reminded me at a mean Mozzie (white collar). Did anyone watch that?
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:11 AM
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I can't believe that he is really willing to give Red up, to betray him and Liz, to save his skin. And God, don't you even dare to make it all about your so called family.
I never watched the attempted spin-off cause it was pulled (I saved the episodes till I knew for sure), but didn't Jake/Chris (Tom) help his father and redeem himself for all the things he ever did? If so; why would he slip back now? As I said; I never watched that attempted story.
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This episode was amazing!

Rembe all the way! I really cried during the Red/Dembe scenes. They were so amazing and precious! And Dembe just rocked this episode all day, every day! He was so amazing. Loved seeing him in a scene with Aram again.

I can't really believe that Red congratulated Liz with her marriage. I really thought he was going to tell her what he thought about it. Maybe we will still or maybe he just gave up because he knows that she is not listening to her.

I didn't expect Red to be the one that hired the guy to follow Pete! I wonder who they guy is that got to Tom, Pete and his girlfriend. I was shocked when he shot Pete's girlfriend in the back.

And Tom telling that guy that Red is his boss and that he can deliver Red to him. F you Tom! What the hell does he think? That Red is not going to see through him? Red will always outsmart him.

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I never watched the attempted spin-off cause it was pulled (I saved the episodes till I knew for sure), but didn't Jake/Chris (Tom) help his father and redeem himself for all the things he ever did? If so; why would he slip back now? As I said; I never watched that attempted story.
You know Brian, I watched Redemption but I can't really remember a lot anymore. He was supossed to redeem himself but both his mother and father betrayed and played him so for me he didn't really redeem himself.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:06 PM
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I think the intent was for Tom to redeem himself and fans to see him as good. It just didn't work for me.
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I think the intent was for Tom to redeem himself and fans to see him as good. It just didn't work for me.
Same here... There is no chance that Tom can ever redeem himself for me. I'm sorry.

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I ship Rembe. I don't need Liz or Tom anymore. They can both go. Rembe forever.
I love this and it's soooo true! Rembe all the way!

Really nice catch, Marilyn, that Red always told Liz to do her job, letting her go even if it was dangerous and with Dembe, he really doesn't want to let him go at all. This fact somehow gives me a completely new perspective.

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I know Red talked about how angry he used to be. And he probably was. I'd still love to know why! And yes I'm thinking because the Christmas Eve story. But I still think Red has always been fundamentally good.
Sooo my opinion I as well think that he was that angry because of what happened to his wife and child... I still want to know the whole truth there...

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He reminded me at a mean Mozzie (white collar). Did anyone watch that?
I know him, yes! And true, he really looks like Mozzie! Btw, I just found on IMDB that the characters name is Ian Garvy and if I recall correctly it's the blacklister in next week's episode

Miranda, I was crying when Red finally saved Dembe and he took the child and ran to the car!
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Great that we have a name for the big bad and that he is going to be next weeks blacklister! Can't wait to see what that will have in store for us.

Red and Dembe, all the way, every day. The story he told Liz why Dembe stayed with him was so emotional and heartbreaking. They are both such fantastic men.

That was definitly the intent Marilyn for Tom to redeem himself but that didn't work and is never going to. He will never change.
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So this bad guy, Ian, knew about the bones and their connection to Red. I wonder who he is going to be and if we will learn some info about the past. He must be connected to the past to have this knowledge. Right?
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Yes definitly. Now the question is; How did he know about the suitcase and what does he want to do with it?
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I really hope Tom Keen gets a bullet in the brain pan by the next episode.... I am really so sick and tired of his constant BS!
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Tari, that's really harsh words. Please keep in mind that it's still a PG-13 board But I know what you mean and I really want him to leave the show, too.

I'm really wondering how he knew about the search Pete ran... Who is he?
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