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Old 09-14-2018, 06:50 PM
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Oh wow you did? how did you cope with it , for the dog did you change much?

We do i wont hate you for it
we did try to keep her on one floor. stop her from taking the steps. tried to keep her as comfortable as possible. the doc gave us all kinds of papers on dealing with blind dogs. but she also had other health issues and was in a lot of pain. the medication she was on was no longer helping her with the pain. and we ended up having to put her down. we hated having to do that. but we also didnt want her being in pain anymore. but they couldnt do anything to help relieve the pain either.

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Hi, Petra!

Aww, I'm glad you're doing everything you can for her. Yeah, it is sad. I just hope you can make her as happy as she can be.

Oh, that's good. I was worried that no one had applied. I also hope Jac will be back when the show comes back. I'd miss her if she didn't post here.

Thanks for being so understanding. And once again, I've already told you and everyone on the Avengers board the reason the MCU got messed up... Edgar Wright, Edgar Wright, Edgar Wright! Again, Edgar wrote his Ant-Man script back in the early 2000's before there even were any shared universe movies, before Batman Begins, before Superman Returns, before Ang Lee's Hulk, way before Iron Man and the MCU came out. Back when Edgar wrote his Ant-Man script, it was just the Spider-Man movies with Toby Maguire, and the X-Men movies with Hugh Jackman, and that was it. So Edgar's Ant-Man was never meant for MCU inclusion and had nothing to do with the Avengers. Marvel didn't cut Hank and Janet out of the Avengers movies because they thought it would make the movies any better, they did it to accommodate Edgar due to stupid Hollywood studio politics and behind-the-scenes agreements that have nothing to do with storytelling. But Edgar's script didn't work in the MCU(big surprise) and he ended up quitting, which is why this whole situation was so stupid and unnecessary.

And they'd better fix things because they can't keep Hank and Janet as old people in the MCU forever because they're not old in the comics. And when you have 50 years of Avengers stories with Hank and Janet, how are you supposed to keep them out of the Avengers movies indefinitely? Do you really want movie audiences to only remember Hope Van Dyne, a character who doesn't even exist in the comics, as The Wasp, when Janet is the ONLY Wasp comic book fans have been reading about in the Avengers comics for the last 50 years? When I said that Janet Van Dyne is as important to the Avengers as Diana Prince's Wonder Woman is to the Justice League, that's not an exaggeration. And if you've seen what the comics have done to Hank Pym recently just to get him out of the way because of the MCU, you'd be infuriated as well. They can't just keep the MCU like this because of one mistake.

Hi, Jen! Thanks for understanding.

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Old 09-15-2018, 04:20 AM
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Old 09-15-2018, 03:25 PM
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Thanks for the new thread, Jen!

Hi, Sarah! It's okay, we're glad to see you here.

Petra, this is the kind of bull Hank Pym is going through in Soul World while the MCU has Hank and Janet as old people and Scott Lang as Ant-Man. This bull will not stop until the MCU is fixed.

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Well I don't know why they are doing that, but I'm not as opposed to it as you are either.
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Old 09-15-2018, 05:14 PM
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we did try to keep her on one floor. stop her from taking the steps. tried to keep her as comfortable as possible. the doc gave us all kinds of papers on dealing with blind dogs. but she also had other health issues and was in a lot of pain. the medication she was on was no longer helping her with the pain. and we ended up having to put her down. we hated having to do that. but we also didnt want her being in pain anymore. but they couldnt do anything to help relieve the pain either.
Thanks for the tips my dog might have other issues but atm we are focusing on her diabetes and making it say for her to navigate in our house .

Back to antman see I didn't know they did the script that long ago .. Wow that was years ago .. but how long was the contract in place for ? I mean antman was made what 3 years ago they couldn't fix the script than ?
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Old 09-15-2018, 05:30 PM
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Well I don't know why they are doing that, but I'm not as opposed to it as you are either.
You know why they're doing it, Matt. They need to keep Hank and Janet out of the Avengers comics while the MCU has them as old people who aren't in the Avengers and has Scott and Hope as Ant-Man and Wasp. Heaven forbid we confuse movie audiences with a discrepancy like a young Hank and Janet in the Avengers comics but an old Hank and Janet in the movies who aren't in the Avengers. Funny how Hollywood feels no obligation to be faithful to the comics, but the comics are somehow obligated to alter themselves to help promote the films. Tail wagging the dog. And if you're not opposed to it, Matt, then perhaps you're not aware of the long term damage this is gonna do to Hank and Janet's legacy?

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Thanks for the tips my dog might have other issues but atm we are focusing on her diabetes and making it say for her to navigate in our house .

Back to antman see I didn't know they did the script that long ago .. Wow that was years ago .. but how long was the contract in place for ? I mean antman was made what 3 years ago they couldn't fix the script than ?
Aww, I hope you can do everything you can for your dog, Petra. I hope her other issues aren't serious or anything. Just take care of her as best you can.

Yes, Edgar's script was written years before the MCU even existed, back in the days when superhero movies were stand alone films and there were no shared universes in cinema. And I guess when Marvel bought back the rights to the character, Edgar's script got "grandfathered" into the MCU, which I think is stupid because if you're making a shared universe where the Avengers exist, each movie has to be compatible with that storyline, and Edgar's Ant-Man was not. That's why Scott and Hope hardly have anything to do with the Avengers storyline in the MCU. That's why Hawkeye was a zombie for most of the first Avengers movie and why Black Widow has been mostly in over her head in most of these films, because they were never supposed to be there in the first place.

Joss Whedon himself said the reason he was asked to write Hank and Janet out of his Avengers scripts and replace them with Hawkeye and Black Widow was because "Edgar had him first," regarding Hank Pym. So they felt contractually obligated to accommodate Edgar, even if it meant shoehorning his script into an MCU it was never meant to be part of, and having Joss rearrange the entire Avengers storyline to account for Hank and Janet's absence. In the comics, Hank and Janet are founding Avengers, but in the MCU, it's Hawkeye and Black Widow. In the comics, Hank Pym is Ultron's creator, but in the MCU, it's Tony Stark. In the comics, Janet is the ONLY Wasp in the Avengers for the past five decades and was leader of the Avengers after Captain America. In the MCU, Janet is a minor character and Hope is the main Wasp, which is an insult considering she doesn't even exist in the comics. Hank and Janet never had children and they're both only in their 30's. And for what? Edgar quit the production because he didn't want to alter his film to fit the MCU, and Marvel admitted that his script didn't work in the MCU. The problem is, you'd think they could've figured that out just from reading his script. They didn't have to use his script, and the changes they made to the Avengers in the MCU sure didn't improve the story at all. But what's even worse is what's happening to Hank and Janet in the comics because of Marvel having to help promote the MCU... by pushing Hank and Janet aside.
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Old 09-15-2018, 05:52 PM
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Ok so they just did everything for him Edgar.. ?

So I don't blame marvel it is the silly fine line with productions and the red tape that is all behind the scenes .. Cause Josh wehdon could of put them in and they would of been a huge part of the movie .. it is a shame .
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Old 09-16-2018, 04:23 AM
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Ok so they just did everything for him Edgar.. ?

So I don't blame marvel it is the silly fine line with productions and the red tape that is all behind the scenes .. Cause Josh wehdon could of put them in and they would of been a huge part of the movie .. it is a shame .
Yep, the entire Avengers storyline in the MCU was altered to accommodate Edgar, and what's really stupid is that Edgar didn't want his movie in the MCU and hoped that he could keep it a stand alone film, and he ended up quitting the production when he realized he wouldn't be able to make the movie he wanted to make. So it was all for nothing and Edgar ended up not even making an MCU movie. Even Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige said the script wasn't working and didn't fit in the MCU, so why did they even bother using it?

Yes, this is mostly just because of stupid studio politics and contractual agreements, and not about storytelling. But the fact remains that Hank and Janet are two of the founding members of the Avengers and have been in the Avengers longer than anyone, and they are the only Ant-Man and Wasp who belong in the MCU because it's their story, no one else's.
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:08 AM
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Yep, the entire Avengers storyline in the MCU was altered to accommodate Edgar, and what's really stupid is that Edgar didn't want his movie in the MCU and hoped that he could keep it a stand alone film, and he ended up quitting the production when he realized he wouldn't be able to make the movie he wanted to make. So it was all for nothing and Edgar ended up not even making an MCU movie. Even Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige said the script wasn't working and didn't fit in the MCU, so why did they even bother using it?

Yes, this is mostly just because of stupid studio politics and contractual agreements, and not about storytelling. But the fact remains that Hank and Janet are two of the founding members of the Avengers and have been in the Avengers longer than anyone, and they are the only Ant-Man and Wasp who belong in the MCU because it's their story, no one else's.
agreed !! god he sucks it would of been them introduced in Avengers and hawkeye and black widow would of been in the background
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Old 09-16-2018, 10:39 AM
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Hi, Jac! I'm glad to see you! I hope you're doing well!

Hi, Jen!


Wow, thanks for agreeing with me, Petra. The MCU is setting off my OCD something fierce.
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Old 09-16-2018, 07:02 PM
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Hi, Jac! I'm glad to see you! I hope you're doing well!

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Wow, thanks for agreeing with me, Petra. The MCU is setting off my OCD something fierce.
i understand it but do you still enjoy the other movies???

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Oh yep I'm doing okay everyone
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